Archive for September, 2008

Alma 42: Theodicy and a restricted God

September 22, 2008

24 For behold, justice exerciseth all his demands, and also mercy claimeth all which is her own; and thus, none but the truly penitent are saved.
25 What, do ye suppose that mercy can rob justice? I say unto you, Nay; not one whit. If so, God would cease to be God.

From an England essay in response to Rabbi Kushner:

Kushner thinks [p.96] that the author of the Book of Job has God appear out of the whirlwind not to reinforce Job’s position by asserting that he doesn’t have to explain suffering to his ignorant and weak creation, man, but rather to teach Job that it is too difficult even for God to keep cruelty and chaos from claiming their innocent victims (Job 40 and 41). In other words, the author of Job gives up statement number 1, that God is omnipotent, the cause of everything—and Kushner agrees:

If God is a god of justice and not of power, then He can still be on our side when bad things happen to us…. Our misfortunes are none of His doing, and so we can turn to Him for help…. We will turn to God, not to be judged or forgiven, not to be rewarded or punished, but to be strengthened and comforted.

It is unfortunate that this resolution to the problem of evil should be seen as utterly new, because, of course, it is the one revealed nearly 150 years ago to Joseph Smith.

David Bailey on the lack of scriptural support for omniscience, omnipotence, and omnipresence:

The terms omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent and omnibenevolent play a central role in the definition of God for traditional Christian faiths, although at the present time they are used more often by conservative and evangelical denominations. Some Latter-day Saints also use these terms (at least the first two). Nonetheless it is a curious fact that these words, with the sole exception of “omnipotent” in one highly poetic verse in Revelations [Rev. 19:6] do not appear in the Bible. Instead, these terms and corresponding doctrines were devised with the creeds of early Christianity during the first few centuries after Christ, when Christian theology was recast in terms of Greek metaphysics.

England again on “The Weeping God of Mormonism“:

Traditional theodicies tend to solve the paradox of evil existing in an omnipotent God’s universe either by (1) redefining evil (as not really evil from God’s infinite perspective, as illusory, or necessary to build souls, or as merely the absence of good, the holes in God’s swiss-cheese universe) or by (2) equivocating on agency (it is given because for some unexplained reason an omnipotent God has to in order to have beings who freely love him). Some Mormon thinkers have used similar approaches, but the theodicy revealed to Enoch and foundational to Mormonism orthodoxy, I believe, questions the other pole of the paradox, God’s omnipotence. It suggests that God allows evil because there is much of it he cant prevent or do away with. And therefore, like a human, he weeps. Of course, this approach doesnt suggest that most or even much evil is beyond God’s literal power to prevent. That would make him impotent indeed. Certainly he can and often does interfere with evil. The weeping God of Mormonism I am trying to describe creates a world for soul-building which can only succeed if its includes exposure of our souls to the effects of natural law and maximum latitude for us to exercise our agency as we learn how that universe works. Evil is a natural condition of such a world, not because God creates evil for soul-building but because evil inevitably results when agency is freed to grapple with natural law in the universe. You cant have one without the othernot because God says so but because the universe, which was not created ex nihilo and thus has its own intractable nature, says so. And thus God is not absolutely omnipotent in the traditional Christian sense; he has limits imposed by the co-eternal nature of other components of the universe which he did not create, such as matter (D&C 93:33) and eternal laws (D&C 130:20-21) and especially human intelligences (D&C 93:29). As modern revelation teaches us, God is bound when we do what he says (D&C 82:19), that is, he is limited to some extent, required to respond in certain ways by our obedience to the eternal laws he teaches us. In other words, besides being infinite in many important ways (such as providing an Atonement infinitely able to save those who will accept it), he could in some ways be thought of as finite.

Alma 41: Restitution & restoration

September 22, 2008
every floret is a copy of the whole.

Brocciflower: every floret is a copy of the whole.

Each leaflet of the fern is a copy of the whole

Each leaflet of the fern is a copy of the whole

self-similarity at all scales

Diffusion-limited aggregation: self-similarity at all scales

3 And it is requisite with the justice of God that men should be judged according to their works; and if their works were good in this life, and the desires of their hearts were good, that they should also, at the last day, be restored unto that which is good.
4 And if their works are evil they shall be restored unto them for evil. Therefore, all things shall be restored to their proper order, every thing to its natural frame—mortality raised to immortality, corruption to incorruption—raised to endless happiness to inherit the kingdom of God, or to endless misery to inherit the kingdom of the devil, the one on one hand, the other on the other—
12 And now behold, is the meaning of the word restoration to take a thing of a natural state and place it in an unnatural state, or to place it in a state opposite to its nature?
13 O, my son, this is not the case; but the meaning of the word restoration is to bring back again evil for evil, or carnal for carnal, or devilish for devilish—good for that which is good; righteous for that which is righteous; just for that which is just; merciful for that which is merciful.
14 Therefore, my son, see that you are merciful unto your brethren; deal justly, judge righteously, and do good continually; and if ye do all these things then shall ye receive your reward; yea, ye shall have mercy restored unto you again; ye shall have justice restored unto you again; ye shall have a righteous judgment restored unto you again; and ye shall have good rewarded unto you again.
15 For that which ye do send out shall return unto you again, and be restored; therefore, the word restoration more fully condemneth the sinner, and justifieth him not at all.

Christ is the pattern, patron, temple and template: if we get the first iteration right, then the rest will be restored to us in eternity.

Also, the epic story of the exodus:

  1. Creation in Heaven / Jacob in famished Palestine
    Gen 46
    3 And he said, I am God, the God of thy father: fear not to go down into Egypt; for I will there make of thee a great nation:
    4 I will go down with thee into Egypt; and I will also surely bring thee up again: and Joseph shall put his hand upon thine eyes.

  2. Eden / Wilderness
  3. Lone & dreary world / Egypt / Living in captivity to sin
    Scrifice of the Lamb, death of the Firstborn
    Flood / Red Sea / Baptism
    Fire / Pillar of fire / Confirmation

  4. Millenium / Wilderness / In the word but not of it
    New Jerusalem / Mount Sinai / Temple

  5. Sea of glass / Promised Land / Heaven

applies to worlds, nations, and individuals, self-similarity at all scales.

Alma 37

September 22, 2008

See also the hymn from last post.

6 Now ye may suppose that this is foolishness in me; but behold I say unto you, that by small and simple things are great things brought to pass; and small means in many instances doth confound the wise.

*cough* evolution *cough*

8 And now, it has hitherto been wisdom in God that these things should be preserved; for behold, they have enlarged the memory of this people, yea, and convinced many of the error of their ways, and brought them to the knowledge of their God unto the salvation of their souls.

Long term memory is really overrated.  Keep a diary and a scrapbook.  I’m really glad Miriam does such a good job of documenting our lives.

25 I will bring forth out of darkness unto light all their secret works and their abominations; and except they repent I will destroy them from off the face of the earth; and I will bring to light all their secrets and abominations, unto every nation that shall hereafter possess the land.

Cf Mark 4:22 and Luke 12:2-3

38 And now, my son, I have somewhat to say concerning the thing which our fathers call a ball, or director—or our fathers called it Liahona, which is, being interpreted, a compass; and the Lord prepared it.

L-YH-HNH? (To Jah Behold!) = “Look to God and Live” ?

Spherical Astrolabe, by Musa, Eastern Islamic, 1480/81

Spherical Astrolabe, by Musa, Eastern Islamic, 1480/81

Alma 34

September 22, 2008

Alma 34:  Infinite and eternal sacrifice—if everyone but one person were as righteous a Christ, to save the one repentant soul would still require an infinite sacrifice.

Lev 1 (heart might mind strength)

8 And the priests, Aaron’s sons, shall lay the parts, the head, and the fat, in order upon the wood that is on the fire which is upon the altar: 9 But his inwards and his legs shall he wash in water: and the priest shall burn all on the altar, to be a burnt sacrifice, an offering made by fire, of a sweet savour unto the Lord.

Matt 5

13 ¶ Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

2Cor 2

14 Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place.  15 For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish:  16 To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things?

Alma 34 (and 37 and 2 Ne 33): a hymn from my mission.  Sing it to “Go Forth with Faith” if you’re being especially reverent, but to “Ghost Riders in the Sky” if at all possible :)

Preach unto them repentance, son, and faith in Jesus Christ;
And teach them to be humble, to be meek with hearts contrite.
Withstand the firey darts of Satan; put thy trust in God.
Learn wisdom in thy youth, my son: hold to the iron rod!

Cry unto God for all thy help, and He will be thy Stay.
Direct your thoughts to Him, where e’er you go or what you say.
Let all thy doings be unto the Lord, and always pray;
And if ye do these things ye shall rise up at the last day.

Begin to call upon his holy name that he would save
Thy soul from Satan’s awful grasp—to him, you’d be no slave.
Cry unto him to bless your flocks, your fields, your work, your life;
Cry unto him to bless your home, your children and your wife.

Pour out your souls in secret places, in your wilderness.
Draw out in prayer your swollen hearts that all good men be blessed.
Don’t turn away the needy nor the sick nor the diseased;
Be looking for the way that someone’s burden might be eased.

If we do not remember to serve men and earn our crown,
We’ll be as dross, just worthless stuff cast out and trodden down.
We must prepare! This is the hour, this is the time before
In outer darkness those who sin will sink to rise no more.

Now hearken all ye people! Hear my words: believe in Christ!
To those who don’t believe me, I repeat: believe in Christ!
And if ye shall believe in him, you’re heading towards the light,
For these are words of Christ and they teach all men to do right.

And should you think they’re not Christ’s words, judge ye!  For he will show
With power and great glory that they’re his, and you will know
That I have been commanded of the Lord to write this song,
And face-to-face the Lord will tell you straightly that you’re wrong!

I pray the Father in the name of Christ that—if not all—
Then many will be saved and have their souls redeemed from hell.
Now from the dust, I cry, “Farewell!”  And ye that won’t partake
Of godliness nor hear my words, you’ve made a sad mistake:

For, all you stubborn sinners who reject the blessed Lamb,
I seal these things against you! When he comes, then you’ll be damned;
So quit procrastinating, join the church of Jesus Christ—
And face-to-face the Lord will tell you straightly that you’re right!

34:36 “To go no more out” cf Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.